Ag reps give Liberal budget a thumbs up

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I really can't understand how the farm groups can support this budget.

The province will increase it's deficit $40,000,000,000.00 the next 2 years alone. The provincial debt has doubled under this government and stands at $281,000,000,000.00.

Increase the EHT exemption???? The max is presently 1.95% on wages OVER $400,000.00!! How on earth will a few dollars (max $975) saved in EHT translate into any meaningful savings especially when the Health Premium (read my lips, no new taxes) is still in place?

The entire budget mentions "agriculture" 4 times and not in any meaningful fashion.

Farmer is mentioned 0 times.

Farm is mentioned 0 times.

Hydro is going up.

There might not be NEW taxes but "fees" will be the norm.

This government has not shown fiscal responsibility and yet farm groups hang their hat on the "promise" to eliminate the deficit in 5 years...... all the while we enter a new stage of economic challenges.

If farmers showed this kind of fiscal plan to any banker, they would be tossed on the street in a heart beat.

I politely give this budget 2 thumbs down.

joann vergeer

The increased deficit has increased largely because of the GEA. Since these contracts are 20 years, don't expect the deficit to go down and/or hydro rates. I would have to say that some farmers "fiscal plans" are not so good however.

Since when is a "contract" with government worth anything? Signing a contract with government to provide green energy is as risky/inherently-suicidal as buying quota in the belief that government won't change its mind about that too.

Stephen Thompson, Clinton ON

It's still a pile of money to churn out if they do uphold these contracts, which is poor spending. I do think they will honor them, but after that they will pay peanuts. In the meantime hydro will keep creeping up because of it.

Apparently the government isn't concerned about consumers hydro rates going up and/or wasted tax dollars on green energy. There has been 40 years of consumers overspending for dairy and poultry which the government has control over, so what does the government care if the same thing happens with hydro for only twenty years? Raube Beuerman, Dublin, ON

Good point Mr. Thompson, If the govt can cancel gas plants already under construction, a few solar panels and wind turbines that rural ontario never wanted should be a breeze. I wonder if our GFO's have put any thought into what a reasonable buyout per panel would be
Phil Anwender.

My laugh of the day, the week, the month, the year, the decade, has to be putting "GFO" and "thought" into the same sentence. To expect GFOs to have a "Plan B", for anything, is as ridiculous a concept as former federal Ag Minister, Chuck Strahl, asking supply management what their "Plan B" was in case supply managememt failed. Neither the GFO's nor supply management have any concept of what "Plan B" means, let alone have ever thought about it, but with respect, Ontario Pork could teach them both. Our own personal "Plan B" should be to meet at Bentley's for many beer, and the sooner, the better.

Stephen Thompson, Clinton ON

Former Premier McGuinty testified today that he did "not have full costing going into decisions" when questioned about spending tax payers monies.....half a billion $$$$ and counting relating to a gas plant that will never be completed.

He also said "It's just unfortunate we didn't get it right the first time". He said "WE" in the statement. Ag. Minister Wynne was a cabinet member at the time.

I still don't understand how the farm groups can support a government that admits they can't get costing right when making decisions.

Those kind of statements totally invalidate anything in this budget.

As for OFA President Mr. Wales hoping for a proper definition of "agriculture" as it relates to Ontario farmland... I would suggest he speaks with the Association of Ontario Land Surveyors. A knowledgeable surveyor will define "agriculture" in the true manner.

joann vergeer

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