Farmland value growth slows in Canada: FCC report

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Gervais seems to have ratios for everything but what matters, and that's price/earnings ratios.

In 1973, and again in 1986, farmland was selling for about ten times cash rent which approximates a price/earnings ratio of 10:1, a ratio which measures earnings on what some call an EBITDA basis (Earnings before interest, taxes and depreciation allowance) which factors out the cost of money.

Now, in 2015, farmland is approaching a price/earnings multiple of between 50:1 and 60:1 and the best Gervais and FCC can muster is sugar-coated statements like "cause for pause", rather than the more-appropriate -"Holy crap, what are we doing?".

What's worse about today's price/earnings multiples of up to 60:1 is that cash rents have been hyper-inflated because of the ethanol bubble, so that instead of $285 per acre cash rents, we would, in the absence of ethanol, be likely seeing $200 which gives today's $15,000 per acre land a price earnings multiple of over 70:1.

Alas, I remember 1979 all too well, when "talking heads" everywhere were pontificating about increasing global demand and that when it came to land - "buy it, they're not making it any more" and other such nonsense which guaranteed the 1980s price crash was going to be far-worse than it ever needed to be.

Nothing smartens up people, particularly farmers, like a crash, and since things always look the rosiest just before the crash, we're long-overdue for a horrible one.

Stephen Thompson, Clinton ON

At 70:1 - all the greater minds will sell to the greater fools.
We will watch for the listings.

A better study would be to find out what percentage of farmers are knocking down the principle, and/or, what percent of principle on debt is being paid.
Inflation brought the boomer generation of farmers out of debt. Not looking like a repeat for millenials.

Raube Beuerman

Quote: "Ontario’s market reflects outsized demand for available land, together with relatively low interest rates, expanding livestock enterprises and, in parts of southwestern Ontario, the role of “non-agricultural buyers.”

Please note the "expanding livestock enterprises" and "low interest rates". So, it would appear this is saying almost the same as the recent Valco study. Boys will be boys.

"Outsized" is a word with no place in investment criteria, especially when it comes to the ego of the investor, but unfortunately, "outsized" is the only word to adequately describe the current bubble in farmland, or any investment bubble for that matter.

Whether it is:

(A) outsized expectations about food-price inflation and no inflation elsewhere.
(B) outsized expectations about abnormally cheap borrowing costs
(C) outsized expecations about the permanency of supply management and/or ethanol and the artificially-outsized cash flows emanating therefrom
(D) outsized egos of individual land buyers leading them to believe that:
(1) this time it will be different
(2) I'm capable of accomplishing anything

For some reason, I keep getting reminded of the long line-ups outside the Bank of Nova Scotia in the late 1970s as individual investors lined up to buy gold at $800/ounce - it promptly sank to about $300 and took the life savings of most of those individual investors with it, thereby once again amply demonstrating the wisdom of the adage - "Fools rush in where wise men refuse to tread".

Stephen Thompson, Clinton ON

In ontario farm land and houses in the larger centers are overpriced. With $50.00 per barrel oil corn needs to be less than $3.00 per bushel. This would bring cash rents back to $100 per acre then watch out.

Most commodities have been forced to compete in the last five or so years, but now are starting to back off. It will be interesting to see the other non free traded commodities, if they continue on there 120% over priced consumer backed buying spree. What a mess if the early 80s comes home for a visit

Sorry FCC, but I don t put much faith in any of your studies. You were out of touch 10 years ago from my experience. If I had never listened to my FCC agent back then I d be a lot happier today. I hope their employees today are a lot smarter than they used to be.

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